MP Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.), A member of the House select committee investigating the Capitol riots, asked Kouchner during a tape recording if he knew of any cases where Cipollone had threatened to resign by Jan. 6. “Somehow, as I said, my interest at the time was to try to achieve so much forgiveness,” Kouchner testified. “And I know, you know, he and the team were always saying, ‘Oh, we’re going to give up, we’re not going to be here if that’s going to happen,’ so I kind of took it. just to whine, to be honest with you “. Cheney said Shipolone and his team’s threats to step down in the wake of plans for a January 6 rally outside the White House and allegations of rigged elections were a sign of the seriousness of the situation in the last days of his term. former President Trump. term. Jan. 6 Commission Opens Public Case Against Trump The Five Most Dramatic Moments Since The Jan. 6 Hearing “Immediate attention is needed,” Cheney said, adding that Kouchner and others shrugged instead. Kouchner was one of many Trump’s former White House officials whose recorded testimony was heard during Thursday night’s hearing when committee members tried to argue that the Jan. 6 riots were the culmination of a series of speeches and Trump’s actions in the months after 2020. election. Former Attorney General William Barr testified that he believed Trump’s allegations of fraudulent elections were “bullshit-” and Ivanka Trump, who is married to Kouchner and also served as a senior White House adviser, told the commission she believed that Barr was right. .